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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 22:07:16 GMT 1
Without any connection to royalty do you think that Diana would have given a second glance to Charles? Yes there could well be a parallel. nb I must have clicked quote rather than edit. - if any spelling mistokes then live with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 23:12:08 GMT 1
They are kept in the limelight by the likes of the daily Mail - its a show-biz thing like love island etc. Its the Alf Garnetts of the UK that keep the royals going, especially when there is a bit of gossip. It's newspapers, and not just the DM, that shape much of public opinion on women like Megan Markel (since that's who we're talking about), who has had no discernible negative impact on the lives of ordinary folk. She may well be shallow and self-serving, but without having close up contact with her over a period of time how can one form that opinion of her? Newspapers don't like her and they want their respective readerships to dislike her too. It's the old "if you can't control them, control how others see them" routine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 23:27:22 GMT 1
Without any connection to royalty do you think that Diana would have given a second glance to Charles? Do you think she was left with options? Wasn't she was picked for him. In other circles it might be called grooming. In all likelihood, neither picked nor groomed by Charles.
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 6, 2021 9:18:48 GMT 1
Interesting how many people say they've gone away to live their lives independent of the Royal family in UK so let them get on with it. It is very noticeable that they are using the "royal" connection to raise pots of cash in a country that fantasizes about royal traditions. Hypocrisy springs to mind. Do you think Sarah, Duchess of York also did that? I don't really see how their past would not affect their commercial value. How could they avoid it? If she does an acting job everyone accuses her of cashing in on her connections but she can't disconnect from her past and go back to being plain old Megan. Neither can Harry stop being the son of Charles and Diana. What would you do? I would certainly not do televised interviews, discuss personal family issues, and publish books about them under the guise of "getting on with our lives". He is a whiner and she is showing him how to cash in on it.
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Post by lindalovely on Aug 6, 2021 10:13:49 GMT 1
Do you think Sarah, Duchess of York also did that? I don't really see how their past would not affect their commercial value. How could they avoid it? If she does an acting job everyone accuses her of cashing in on her connections but she can't disconnect from her past and go back to being plain old Megan. Neither can Harry stop being the son of Charles and Diana. What would you do? I would certainly not do televised interviews, discuss personal family issues, and publish books about them under the guise of "getting on with our lives". He is a whiner and she is showing him how to cash in on it. So, in his position, as the son of the heir to the throne, what would you do to earn money? It's not like he has the skills to do much else ...as Royals the only lifestyle they know is one of celebrity. He can hardly retrain as a doctor. Similarly she is an actress/ celebrity with no other way of earning a living. I hate the celeb culture but it is what we have created.
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Post by plog on Aug 6, 2021 10:35:09 GMT 1
“So, in his position, as the son of the heir to the throne, what would you do to earn money? .” That’s the 64000 dollar question and it’s one maybe H needed to have asked and taken advice on before disappearing off to the States…..I really really don’t think he thought this through at all, apart from perhaps imaging he could parachute into California and make a living as a A+++++ list celeb…..I suspect he is now realising he and Megan simply aren’t in the same sort of league as the Clooney’s and Winfrey’s of this world….(who are canny and smart operators as well as being celebs) I certainly think it’s more than slightly naive if he thinks that he can turn on the publicity tap for a brief period when it suits …”I’d like some PR about a book/video/project I’m doing” but then thinking he can turn it off when you perhaps don’t like some of the attention you are getting. I hope I am wrong but I can’t see this ending well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 11:16:17 GMT 1
Well we do seem to be giving them the publicity they desire on this thread. I doubt it, Mrs Archy. Unless they join and get super member status. No disrespect to this or any other forum but we're no quite on the same level as Take A Break or the People's Friend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 12:24:25 GMT 1
Apart from Cosmopolitan (too posh for the joke to work) they were the only two I could think of in the moment.
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Post by lindalovely on Aug 6, 2021 15:02:03 GMT 1
“So, in his position, as the son of the heir to the throne, what would you do to earn money? .” That’s the 64000 dollar question and it’s one maybe H needed to have asked and taken advice on before disappearing off to the States…..I really really don’t think he thought this through at all, apart from perhaps imaging he could parachute into California and make a living as a A+++++ list celeb…..I suspect he is now realising he and Megan simply aren’t in the same sort of league as the Clooney’s and Winfrey’s of this world….(who are canny and smart operators as well as being celebs) I certainly think it’s more than slightly naive if he thinks that he can turn on the publicity tap for a brief period when it suits …”I’d like some PR about a book/video/project I’m doing” but then thinking he can turn it off when you perhaps don’t like some of the attention you are getting. I hope I am wrong but I can’t see this ending well. I guess if it doesn't then he'll learn like everyone else. I think in the States both of them can do very well as celebs. He has never complained about attention from US press or public..just the British press. I can't see her or their children ever setting foot in the UK again, and him only for essential family occasions. It certainly wouldn't have ended well if he had stayed in the UK in his dysfunctional family. Maybe he'll have more chance in States. Certainly worked out OK for the Duchess of York.
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Post by FFS on Aug 6, 2021 16:54:50 GMT 1
Good luck to them both wherever they are and whatever they do.
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 6, 2021 17:15:52 GMT 1
I would certainly not do televised interviews, discuss personal family issues, and publish books about them under the guise of "getting on with our lives". He is a whiner and she is showing him how to cash in on it. So, in his position, as the son of the heir to the throne, what would you do to earn money? It's not like he has the skills to do much else ...as Royals the only lifestyle they know is one of celebrity. He can hardly retrain as a doctor. Similarly she is an actress/ celebrity with no other way of earning a living. I hate the celeb culture but it is what we have created. My heart bleeds for the poor dear. Get off your ass and find a job. The rest of us had to do that at some point. Not jobs we liked particularly but necessary to pay the bills. No "golden spoon" advantages for the rest of us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 22:20:04 GMT 1
To nobody in particular, but more so to those critical of the advantages of royalty, don't you think criticism of Harry and Megan is a tad misplaced? Not one of us wouldn't capitalise on what we have, be it money, a skill, contacts or whatever. They could of course cut their noses off to spite their respective faces. Then we'd call them fools.
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Post by nobody on Aug 7, 2021 15:57:20 GMT 1
To nobody in particular, but more so to those critical of the advantages of royalty, don't you think criticism of Harry and Megan is a tad misplaced? Not one of us wouldn't capitalise on what we have, be it money, a skill, contacts or whatever. They could of course cut their noses off to spite their respective faces. Then we'd call them fools. You know that your best mate Boris will make a fortune out of a book or whatever when he.....ummm..... I wanted to say give up his job. But that does not fit well....cause I am not sure he has had one in his life. Is that OK with you. Fair game ?
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Post by lindalovely on Aug 7, 2021 16:31:04 GMT 1
So, in his position, as the son of the heir to the throne, what would you do to earn money? It's not like he has the skills to do much else ...as Royals the only lifestyle they know is one of celebrity. He can hardly retrain as a doctor. Similarly she is an actress/ celebrity with no other way of earning a living. I hate the celeb culture but it is what we have created. My heart bleeds for the poor dear. Get off your ass and find a job. The rest of us had to do that at some point. Not jobs we liked particularly but necessary to pay the bills. No "golden spoon" advantages for the rest of us. He does have a job..,several...but just jobs that you don't approve of. I live off my pension and rental income...with a little bit of paid work to keep me interested in something I am interested in. Nothing there that would count as a 'job' in your eyes.
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Post by lindalovely on Aug 7, 2021 16:37:20 GMT 1
To nobody in particular, but more so to those critical of the advantages of royalty, don't you think criticism of Harry and Megan is a tad misplaced? Not one of us wouldn't capitalise on what we have, be it money, a skill, contacts or whatever. They could of course cut their noses off to spite their respective faces. Then we'd call them fools. You know that your best mate Boris will make a fortune out of a book or whatever when he.....ummm..... I wanted to say give up his job. But that does not fit well....cause I am not sure he has had one in his life. Is that OK with you. Fair game ? There's no law against it. Tony Blair, Obama etc all made their fortunes after leaving office. It's probably why some of them go into it to start with. I have less problems with Boris writing his memoirs for profit than I do with him taking back handers for getting juicy contracts for his mates while he is still in office.
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