Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 12, 2023 16:23:55 GMT 1
I have read somewhere there is a housing shortage in UK. Prices of existing stock are at such a level that many people below thirty are unlikely to ever own their own place. Given that for whatever reason thousands of people will be arriving where are they going to live? It seems the hotels are too expensive, and the barge idea is too unhealthy. I have visions of large shanty towns of corrugated tin and tents surrounding the cities. I think Rio has just such an arrangement.
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mysty
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Post by mysty on Aug 12, 2023 16:53:29 GMT 1
I have read somewhere there is a housing shortage in UK. Prices of existing stock are at such a level that many people below thirty are unlikely to ever own their own place. Given that for whatever reason thousands of people will be arriving where are they going to live? It seems the hotels are too expensive, and the barge idea is too unhealthy. I have visions of large shanty towns of corrugated tin and tents surrounding the cities. I think Rio has just such an arrangement. I have not driven on the Paris ring road for ages but years ago you had shanty style shacks an the verges by the ring road. Its probably illegal in the UK. |
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Post by cernunnos on Aug 13, 2023 11:04:23 GMT 1
No government in the West will stop the migration without using force , which I think will eventually happen. Don't you mean no government in the west will do anything while cheap labour is needed to continue lining their pockets. The only asylum seekers that go to work are those that are refused , they disappear into the black circuit . I feel that the situation is kept as it is to cause voters to have something to complain about instead of the continuous price rises of day to day living, also the government hopes it will go away if they don't do anything.
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Post by jeliecrack on Aug 13, 2023 11:27:22 GMT 1
So tell me what the 70 odd % who are accepted do? live off dole money?
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Post by jackie on Aug 13, 2023 11:35:00 GMT 1
I believe that they are not allowed to work while they are having their claim processed. Contrary to populist beliefs they don’t get very much in the way of benefits. I’ve heard and seen plenty of interviews with accepted asylum seekers now in work. I really don’t know where you get your facts from sometimes Cernunnos.
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Post by cernunnos on Aug 13, 2023 12:21:58 GMT 1
I believe that they are not allowed to work while they are having their claim processed. Contrary to populist beliefs they don’t get very much in the way of benefits. I’ve heard and seen plenty of interviews with accepted asylum seekers now in work. I really don’t know where you get your facts from sometimes Cernunnos. I think you misunderstad what I write jackie? I know that they are not allowed to work while not having been accepted , but if not accepted where do they go if they are not deported ? So just disappear, many just disappear anyway .
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Post by ForumUser2 on Aug 13, 2023 13:08:05 GMT 1
You see, it really works. Divert people away from the myriad of government failings - Brexit, cost of living, NHS, crime, energy supply etc - and focus on a minuscule problem that allows the hard-of-thinking to come together against a common "enemy".
You're being played, people.
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Post by jackie on Aug 13, 2023 13:41:00 GMT 1
I believe that they are not allowed to work while they are having their claim processed. Contrary to populist beliefs they don’t get very much in the way of benefits. I’ve heard and seen plenty of interviews with accepted asylum seekers now in work. I really don’t know where you get your facts from sometimes Cernunnos. I think you misunderstad what I write jackie? I know that they are not allowed to work while not having been accepted , but if not accepted where do they go if they are not deported ? So just disappear, many just disappear anyway .
It was this sentence ‘The only asylum seekers that go to work are those that are refused’. |
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exile
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Post by exile on Aug 13, 2023 15:08:13 GMT 1
I think you misunderstad what I write jackie? I know that they are not allowed to work while not having been accepted , but if not accepted where do they go if they are not deported ? So just disappear, many just disappear anyway .
It was this sentence ‘The only asylum seekers that go to work are those that are refused’. Strictly, the statement is correct. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work. Once granted asylum they are no longer asylum seekers and they are allowed to assimilate into society- including working.. |
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Post by cernunnos on Aug 13, 2023 18:34:29 GMT 1
I think you misunderstad what I write jackie? I know that they are not allowed to work while not having been accepted , but if not accepted where do they go if they are not deported ? So just disappear, many just disappear anyway .
It was this sentence ‘The only asylum seekers that go to work are those that are refused’. Yes , that is why I said you misunderstood . Asylum seekers that have been given asylum are not seeking , those that are refused , what happens to them ?
There is a lot of information on the web about this subject ( I don't read the Daily Mail)
An interesting note: About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000
Hey...... how about that ?
PS , I think that asylum seekers should be allowed to work !
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Post by jackie on Aug 13, 2023 19:19:46 GMT 1
OK I stand corrected
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Aug 14, 2023 16:02:23 GMT 1
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Sept 16, 2023 3:16:56 GMT 1
The mistake most people seem to make is that they assume the anti-migrant stance is taken by people after careful thought and deliberation with full knowledge of the relevant laws and treaties governing the subject. It's not. It's an atavistic response to the "other". It's a form of moral cowardice combined with self-interest and xenophobia. The brave new world of populist jingoism and fear of perceived (indeed, concocted) threat returns. Is that a statement or an assumption? |
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Sept 16, 2023 3:35:35 GMT 1
I have read somewhere there is a housing shortage in UK. Prices of existing stock are at such a level that many people below thirty are unlikely to ever own their own place. Given that for whatever reason thousands of people will be arriving where are they going to live? It seems the hotels are too expensive, and the barge idea is too unhealthy. I have visions of large shanty towns of corrugated tin and tents surrounding the cities. I think Rio has just such an arrangement. I think that we’re all doomed…… |
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Oct 25, 2023 20:54:25 GMT 1
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