mysty
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Post by mysty on Dec 21, 2023 15:44:03 GMT 1
Don't get too excited it is just a topic and it's not always about me, but often is. There was an article at the weekend about someone with lung cancer who said if there was no improvement or omething like that she would have been prepared to travel to Switzerland to end it all. If I was in pain and discomfort with no hope of recovery I would not want to drag it out to my last breath. How about you?
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Post by specsavers2 on Dec 21, 2023 16:03:13 GMT 1
My wife says I am a constant pain but still here.
Would have to be in a dire position to consider this but wouldn’t write it of.
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Post by glazedallover on Dec 21, 2023 16:27:15 GMT 1
Not being able to login can get to you sometimes..........
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 21, 2023 17:44:07 GMT 1
I hope I don't have to travel to Switzerland to log off.
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Dec 21, 2023 17:53:27 GMT 1
@ Mysty No.
@ Ardvarrk Nearest toilet should do.
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Post by houpla on Dec 21, 2023 17:57:28 GMT 1
I've thought about this over the last three years or so, having lost 8 friends and acquaintances to pancreatic cancer. No chance of a cure, between 18 months and, at best, five years of chemo (sometimes surgery too). You can't know until you're in that situation and the instinct for survival at any price kicks in, but I don't think I'd bother trying to prolong the agony. I've read of a few cases of medical professionals being diagnosed and opting for no treatment....just enjoy themselves as hard as possible for a shorter time. Sounds good to me Pity the favoured option is Switzerland, though. I'd prefer somewhere warm with a beach and killers with a sense of humour.
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Post by Nifty on Dec 21, 2023 18:05:19 GMT 1
Black kittens for good luck. Like my soh.
As it turns out the big C is pretty much on my thoughts presently.. One way or the other I will know more in about a month. I think that worrying about is not good for the soul. Berhaps I have watched too much Jimmy Carr on the web today.
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Post by mangetout on Dec 21, 2023 18:06:30 GMT 1
My husband died a horrible death, cancer of the oesophagus which spread to his lungs. He was unable to swallow anything but thin liquid for 12 months and not even that in the last 2 weeks. He couldn't even gasp for breath at the end. The end of life care given in the hospital was cruel and uncaring. I wanted him to die sooner to spare his suffering. But it never crossed his mind. He wanted to live. That's what worries me. As he was unable to speak I could have taken a decision which was contrary to his desire if a law existed which allowed me to do so. But I knew him. He wanted to live to the very last moment, and who was I to deny him that.
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Post by jackie on Dec 21, 2023 18:11:15 GMT 1
It should a matter of choice for those affected. Get sick of hearing religion doesn’t approve of it and from those who don’t want the option for themselves and don’t want it for others either…
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Post by limousinlady on Dec 21, 2023 18:42:32 GMT 1
Having, in the last two weeks lost my future daughter in law at 33 and my mother at 89, I have a divided view. My future dil was diagnosed with bowel cancer at the end of October, symptoms only occurring 2 weeks prior to diagnosis. She was due to marry my son in May and had her whole life ahead of her and desperately wanted to beat this horrendous disease. She never got the chance and passed away suddenly within 6 weeks. My mother on the other hand was not enjoying life. To see her in pain towards the end was more than difficult and we were asking for more pain killers to make her comfortable, but they were of course strictly monitored. Luckily, at the very end, she was calm and had the best care. I would have done anything to prolong the life of my f. dil and anything to stop the suffering of my mother.
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Post by houpla on Dec 21, 2023 21:34:09 GMT 1
I'm so sorry to hear of your FDIL's death, LL. I knew you'd lost your mother, and that's hard enough, but when a young person goes before their time, it's doubly hard. Courage. xx
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Post by limousinlady on Dec 22, 2023 7:52:26 GMT 1
Thank you Houpla.
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Post by Veem on Dec 22, 2023 9:19:16 GMT 1
LL - that must have been incredibly hard for you and everyone else close to you. Your poor son lost his future wife and his grandmother in quick succession. Sometimes life can seem so cruel. Thinking of you all and wishing you well.
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Post by monsieur3seas on Dec 22, 2023 9:42:17 GMT 1
The thread started by ajm is along the same lines as this one but degenerated into a discussion about drinking tea (or not). When the end of life beckons it can be long and drawn out, sometimes painful, or quick. When the end is near some have the chance of a hospice to make things as 'smooth' as possible. The costs of hospices in the UK are not 100% taxpayer funded and need extensive support from the 'people' to do their wonderful work. Having seen the fairly quick ending of my mother to bowel cancer (in an hospice) and the long drawn out death of my FIL altho of no specific ailment other than having lost a will to live I fully support ending a life before nature takes it. My MIL has been in a care home for 7 years being a drain on family wealth and the wellbeing of my wife. When will it end? My father lived to 104 and spent the last 4 years in a care home but fortunately it did not drain his fortune too much. He received excellent end of life care and my brother and SIL were tremendous throughout.
In my mind we should be able to decide when we want to go (and how?). I would hate to be like my MIL living in a care home with only visits from my wife.
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Post by norfolk on Dec 22, 2023 10:40:42 GMT 1
My missus, already handicapped following an accident died from cancer at the tender age of 56 after seven years of battling. She wouldn’t have chosen euthanasia for the vast majority of those seven years except for maybe the final month when she struggled to have any reasonable quality life. Each case is different and everyone’s individual wishes should be taken into account imo.
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