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Post by gigi on Sept 7, 2021 18:33:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 19:44:51 GMT 1
I used to have them even though it wasn't compulsory: they're great. Much more secure and useful below +7C, not just when it's freezing. Far more useful than 4WD in snow and ice!
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Post by hal on Sept 8, 2021 12:32:33 GMT 1
How does this work in a country that has winter tyre 'divisions'? If I drive to a mountainous region requiring these from say, the south of France, am I required to fit such tyres, or will chains suffice if I can show that I am visiting?
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Post by Polarengineer on Sept 8, 2021 13:07:56 GMT 1
I used to have them even though it wasn't compulsory: they're great. Much more secure and useful below +7C, not just when it's freezing. Far more useful than 4WD in snow and ice! It will be. Interesting to know the actual requirement. When I worked in Munich, there was a similar requirement, however, it was not an offense to drive on summer tyres in winter, but if you had an accident the police and insurance would sink you. StV is dead right, however winter tyres and 4WD is even better. Yes, +7°C and below is the range for these tyres. |
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Post by curtis on Sept 8, 2021 16:02:54 GMT 1
How does this work in a country that has winter tyre 'divisions'? If I drive to a mountainous region requiring these from say, the south of France, am I required to fit such tyres, or will chains suffice if I can show that I am visiting? Probably not as you can drive in a fair amount of snow before you need chaines. Assuming you have the correct tyres. |
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Post by exile on Sept 8, 2021 16:50:37 GMT 1
How does this work in a country that has winter tyre 'divisions'? If I drive to a mountainous region requiring these from say, the south of France, am I required to fit such tyres, or will chains suffice if I can show that I am visiting? Much of the South of France is in the winter tyre required area. But to answer the basic question, you are supposed to have the winter tyres fitted. Chains is another thing and we have quite a number of roads where chains are required when there is snow on the road. |
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Post by pcpa on Sept 8, 2021 18:23:13 GMT 1
48 départements though?
Article was behind a paywall so I could not read it to see if it was yet another false headline.
So many people put links up to Connexions articles, it feels like I am in a minority not being a subscriber.
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Post by timbo on Sept 8, 2021 18:44:23 GMT 1
www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14389This is the official site, you must have either 4 winter tyres fitted or carry chains or textile snow "socks". Whilst 48 departments are affected, only some roads, nominated by the prefecture will come under the law. The roads will have a new sign "B58" at the start of the enforcement, and"B59" at the end.
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Post by FFS on Sept 8, 2021 20:03:43 GMT 1
How does this work in a country that has winter tyre 'divisions'? If I drive to a mountainous region requiring these from say, the south of France, am I required to fit such tyres, or will chains suffice if I can show that I am visiting? Hal, the article says: "So, people who only occasionally visit the mountains will not need to buy four new tyres as long as they have chains. " |
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Post by pcpa on Sept 8, 2021 20:23:26 GMT 1
www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14389This is the official site, you must have either 4 winter tyres fitted or carry chains or textile snow "socks". Whilst 48 departments are affected, only some roads, nominated by the prefecture will come under the law. The roads will have a new sign "B58" at the start of the enforcement, and"B59" at the end. Thanks.
Did the thread title always say "parts of 48 départements"?
If so my apologies to the OP for not having read it properly, I would not have responded had I seen it.
I thought that it always was the case that certain roads were restricted to snow tyres or chains during certain weather conditions, what has actually changed for most people?
For instance it could be extended to my département but unlikely that any roads would ever be nominated.
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Post by hal on Sept 8, 2021 22:06:15 GMT 1
Apologies, I too do not subscribe to the connexion, so unable to read the full article.
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Post by gigi on Sept 8, 2021 23:36:11 GMT 1
Yes, only some roads will be affected in departments affected.
“How will I know which areas are affected?
This winter, two new signs will be appearing on mountainous roads. A B58 sign on the left will indicate entry into a zone where winter tyres or chains are needed, while a B59 sign on the right will indicate the end of the requirement.
How do I know whether I have the right tyres?
Winter tyres can be identified by a “M+S”, “M.S” or “M&S” marking on the sidewall. The “3PMSF” (Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake) sign is also an industry standard.
Look out for the M+S symbol on your winter tyres. If you cannot see either of these symbols, the tyres are not suitable for winter use.
What if I do not have the correct tyres?
If you are driving through an area where winter tyres or snow chains are mandatory and are stopped by the authorities, you will not be able to continue your journey and may face a fine of €135.”
It will be interesting driving from the south of England to the south of France and back this winter with the new regulations.
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Post by FFS on Sept 9, 2021 11:55:11 GMT 1
Apologies, I too do not subscribe to the connexion, so unable to read the full article. I'm not subscribed either but was able to read it without a problem. |
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Post by lurcher on Sept 9, 2021 12:05:52 GMT 1
Connexion seem to give you a few free articles before cutting you off from the full texts. I did pay for three months membership but have barely used it and when I have it was not very productive.
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Post by annabellespapa on Sept 9, 2021 13:57:28 GMT 1
www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14389This is the official site, you must have either 4 winter tyres fitted or carry chains or textile snow "socks". Whilst 48 departments are affected, only some roads, nominated by the prefecture will come under the law. The roads will have a new sign "B58" at the start of the enforcement, and"B59" at the end. We put winter tyres that require the studs to be fitted on my wife's car, they were €75 a corner (called Snowdragons) and have lasted very well, 20k miles and still loads of tread, because of C19 we didn't travel to a ski resort last year but very happy with the tyres in summer and winter conditions. Brother used to work in Germany, he had to pay to have his summer/winter tyres stored at a garage when not in use. |
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