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Post by woolybanana on Oct 31, 2021 19:39:12 GMT 1
A simple question: when I first came to France 25 years ago it was the property buyer who paid the agent’s fees. But I have the impression it is the that it is now the seller. Is this right or has it always been negotiable?
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Post by tim17 on Oct 31, 2021 20:28:33 GMT 1
It's still usual for the buyer to pay the Immo's fees but there's no reason why the seller can't come to an arrangement with the agent, that's what our friends did when they sold their house in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:36:49 GMT 1
It's still usual for the buyer to pay the Immo's fees but there's no reason why the seller can't come to an arrangement with the agent, that's what our friends did when they sold their house in the summer. Simples, and correct answer. Totally logical. Surely EOT (end of thread). |
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Post by FFS on Oct 31, 2021 20:54:12 GMT 1
It's still usual for the buyer to pay the Immo's fees but there's no reason why the seller can't come to an arrangement with the agent, that's what our friends did when they sold their house in the summer. Simples, and correct answer. Totally logical. Surely EOT (end of thread). Threads don't end just because someone says they should. |
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Post by exile on Oct 31, 2021 20:56:19 GMT 1
Notable that a lot of properties are being sold around here with the seller being responsible for the fees. It is of course immaterial. There is a selling price. If the buyer is paying the immo fees that price should be a bit lower than if the seller is paying them. Effectively whatever is written, the buyer pays the fees - either directly or though the sale price.
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Post by pcpa on Oct 31, 2021 21:10:21 GMT 1
* Les honoraires d'agence seront intégralement à la charge du vendeur
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 21:37:54 GMT 1
Normally it's the buyer that pays but today anything goes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 22:13:20 GMT 1
* Les honoraires d'agence seront intégralement à la charge du vendeur Technically yes but if the property is say for example 160000 fai inc. The buyer offers 140000 fai inc, the owner accepts the offer then technically the seller paid the fees. |
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Post by Dominic Best on Oct 31, 2021 23:45:58 GMT 1
* Les honoraires d'agence seront intégralement à la charge du vendeur Technically yes but if the property is say for example 160000 fai inc. The buyer offers 140000 fai inc, the owner accepts the offer then technically the seller paid the fees. That logic is well beyond me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 0:30:27 GMT 1
Simples, and correct answer. Totally logical. Surely EOT (end of thread). Threads don't end just because someone says they should. I said "surely". Surprisingly not the case. How bizarre. Edit: www.french-property.com/guides/france/sale/estate-agent/commissionSometimes getting definitive advice on forums is difficult. Best google or ask the notaire is possibly the best solution in each individual case  . |
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Post by FFS on Nov 1, 2021 9:24:22 GMT 1
Threads don't end just because someone says they should. I said "surely". Surprisingly not the case. How bizarre. Edit: www.french-property.com/guides/france/sale/estate-agent/commissionSometimes getting definitive advice on forums is difficult. Best google or ask the notaire is possibly the best solution in each individual case . Remind me, how recent was your last sale or purchase of a house? Just because an English website purports to describe how French property selling works doesn' t mean that it is strictly like that. |
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Post by ajm on Nov 1, 2021 10:03:18 GMT 1
Threads don't end just because someone says they should. I said "surely". Surprisingly not the case. How bizarre. Edit: www.french-property.com/guides/france/sale/estate-agent/commissionSometimes getting definitive advice on forums is difficult. Best google or ask the notaire is possibly the best solution in each individual case .Couldn't agree more - forums are full of experts. |
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Post by FFS on Nov 1, 2021 10:10:19 GMT 1
Couldn't agree more - forums are full of experts. Perhaps not always experts, but definitely people of experience. |
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Post by landmannnn on Nov 1, 2021 10:32:26 GMT 1
The contract for selling the property is between the seller and the immobilier. So legally the seller is responsible for payment of the fees.
In practice, the notaire pays the immobilier from the proceeds of the property sale.
So no, the buyer never pays the immobilier.
(As above, the selling price of the house may or may not include immobilier fees, either way, the seller still pays the fees)
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Post by exile on Nov 1, 2021 10:55:48 GMT 1
We paid the immo when we bought our house. Whether the seller pays the immo or not is surely stipulated in that contract that you speak of.
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