suein56
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Post by suein56 on Aug 31, 2022 9:58:08 GMT 1
Don't forget that pellet burners need electricity to function. Didn't Macron say smthg about possible power cuts this winter ? If so then an ordinary, standard wood-burner would continue to heat during a cut. How does a power-cut affect a pellet-burner ?
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Post by Polarengineer on Aug 31, 2022 10:01:56 GMT 1
They have a pellet feed auger and a forced draft fan plus electronic controls to make them as complicated as possible and vulnerable to the frequent storms.
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Post by jackie on Aug 31, 2022 15:28:17 GMT 1
Yes but not very much and provides a fan function to distribute the heat (unlike a wood-burner) and the ability to program on and off times. Our woodburner also has a fan. If I want to program on and off times I can add a €3.99 wall plug timer to do that. The program function is for the pellet burner itself so you can have it automatically come on in the Morning and then go off etc.
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Post by jackie on Aug 31, 2022 15:49:29 GMT 1
Our woodburner also has a fan. If I want to program on and off times I can add a €3.99 wall plug timer to do that. The program function is for the pellet burner itself so you can have it automatically come on in the Morning and then go off etc. I have found that people with pellet stoves are delighted with them. How can you effectively discredit or write-off something you have no direct experience of ? There is more than a whiff of ludditness about some posts too….. 😆 I get the power cut thing but in 17 years of living in France we’ve never experienced any major long lasting power outages. We had woodburners for 14 years as a primary source of heating in our previous stone longere. We found the work involved gets very tedious, the constant tending, chopping and humping wood around etc, knowing that if you go out all day the house will be cold when you get in and will take a while to get warm again etc etc. If that floats your boat then all well and good but having grown up in a cold damp house which left me and my siblings with a weak chests I don’t really want to spend the later years of my life like that. Lovely to wake in the winter to a warm house…. Polar Engineer - Yes pellet stoves are complicated but so are a lot of things. No more complicated than a central heating system I would imagine. Why is that an argument for sticking with caveman forms of heating? I guess you don’t drive around in a 1960’s car as new ones are more complicated. Surely it’s the same principal. Had our stove for 4 years no with no problems at all.
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dylan
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Post by dylan on Aug 31, 2022 17:16:47 GMT 1
Had ours for 14 years, zero problems in that time. Funny how many experts there are that have never used one.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 31, 2022 17:24:51 GMT 1
I have a friend who paid a lot for a pellet burner and he found it disappointing in a few ways. He still had to carry the pellets, like he had to carry the logs. The pellets (due to emissions) couldn't be stored inside the living areas of the house. It was noisy. It had to be serviced annually, and wasn't as pleasing to have as a "focal point" in the room. When he moved house he offered it to me gratis. I turned it down. The downsides of pellet burners have been a topic of discussion on various forums and I am not terribly impressed with what I have read. I agree with the downsides to ordinary log burners that you mention. At 75 it doesn't get any easier each winter but I'm stuck with what I can afford. I have had push-of-a-button central heating in UK but can no longer afford to install or run such a system but as long as I can afford logs or go out pulling pallets out of skips I can survive winter. "Why is that an argument for sticking with caveman forms of heating? I guess you don’t drive around in a 1960’s car as new ones are more complicated." Funny you should mention that. Personally I would much rather drive a 1960s car for just that reason but anything that old is considered a "classic" now so they are beyond the reach of mere mortals. Different strokes for different folks used to be the saying.
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Post by jackie on Aug 31, 2022 17:53:38 GMT 1
I have a friend who paid a lot for a pellet burner and he found it disappointing in a few ways. He still had to carry the pellets, like he had to carry the logs. The pellets (due to emissions) couldn't be stored inside the living areas of the house. It was noisy. It had to be serviced annually, and wasn't as pleasing to have as a "focal point" in the room. When he moved house he offered it to me gratis. I turned it down. The downsides of pellet burners have been a topic of discussion on various forums and I am not terribly impressed with what I have read. I agree with the downsides to ordinary log burners that you mention. At 75 it doesn't get any easier each winter but I'm stuck with what I can afford. I have had push-of-a-button central heating in UK but can no longer afford to install or run such a system but as long as I can afford logs or go out pulling pallets out of skips I can survive winter. "Why is that an argument for sticking with caveman forms of heating? I guess you don’t drive around in a 1960’s car as new ones are more complicated."Funny you should mention that. Personally I would much rather drive a 1960s car for just that reason but anything that old is considered a "classic" now so they are beyond the reach of mere mortals. Different strokes for different folks used to be the saying. Yes your last sentence is correct, its just the writing-off of something that you have no personal experience of or based on what someone has said that I find tedious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 19:58:21 GMT 1
What I was saying is that if you have a power cut you lose your heating if you use a pellet burner. Wood burning stove no problems.
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Post by cernunnos on Aug 31, 2022 20:42:04 GMT 1
If i was to install one of the said devices, which wood it be now, I was going pellet, but people on here have said the rise in pellet cost is far greater than the rise in firewood, is either better on the environment? I can't really make the choice for you JohnnyD . We have had wood burning central heating and hot water for more than 30 years , it works fine , the house is always warm in the Winter and we have plenty of hot water . We have our own wood , so the cost is minimal .
Where we live, people have always heated their houses with wood , so it hasn't changed the environment here.
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Post by jackie on Aug 31, 2022 21:10:02 GMT 1
What I was saying is that if you have a power cut you lose your heating if you use a pellet burner. Wood burning stove no problems. I’m aware of that. So do you have heating that doesn’t rely on electricity and how many power cuts do you get? Most people in the UK have central heating that relies on boilers linked to electricity even if they are using gas. So do you have a wood burner then?
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Post by Seaboots on Aug 31, 2022 21:44:24 GMT 1
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Post by Polarengineer on Sept 1, 2022 6:46:54 GMT 1
Jackie, I do not own a pellet fire, I was explaining the reason for electrical power being required for its operation. As for the referrence to the storms, it was a warning that delicate controls get fritzed by lightning as my telephone and devolo wifi system did a week ago. I suggest you do not forget your caveman fire experiences as, who knows, we may all need then again in the near future. My car is 17 years old now and well designed enough that only non essential electronics (AC) have failed in the far too complicated control systems, but fail they will and will not be repairable, only replaceable.
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Sept 1, 2022 8:14:41 GMT 1
We had a Supra fan assisted wood burner years ago that the fan ceased to function after a thunder storm. It worked ok without the fan.
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Post by Seaboots on Sept 1, 2022 8:45:56 GMT 1
I had a Supra in one house and it was by far the best wood burner I’ve ever owned, so simple to operate and super efficient.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Sept 1, 2022 9:26:02 GMT 1
I have a friend who paid a lot for a pellet burner and he found it disappointing in a few ways. He still had to carry the pellets, like he had to carry the logs. The pellets (due to emissions) couldn't be stored inside the living areas of the house. It was noisy. It had to be serviced annually, and wasn't as pleasing to have as a "focal point" in the room. When he moved house he offered it to me gratis. I turned it down. The downsides of pellet burners have been a topic of discussion on various forums and I am not terribly impressed with what I have read. I agree with the downsides to ordinary log burners that you mention. At 75 it doesn't get any easier each winter but I'm stuck with what I can afford. I have had push-of-a-button central heating in UK but can no longer afford to install or run such a system but as long as I can afford logs or go out pulling pallets out of skips I can survive winter. "Why is that an argument for sticking with caveman forms of heating? I guess you don’t drive around in a 1960’s car as new ones are more complicated."Funny you should mention that. Personally I would much rather drive a 1960s car for just that reason but anything that old is considered a "classic" now so they are beyond the reach of mere mortals. Different strokes for different folks used to be the saying. Yes your last sentence is correct, its just the writing-off of something that you have no personal experience of or based on what someone has said that I find tedious.If more people tell me that setting off fireworks in a petrol station is a bad idea than those who say its OK I will give the idea a miss, even though I have no personal experience of it myself. Doing a bit of research, sifting through the data, and making an informed decision has always worked for me. Much better than trial and error. Cheaper too.
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