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Post by cernunnos on Sept 1, 2022 11:02:01 GMT 1
Basing the decisions we are making for the future on the past is only applicable when the situation in the future is the same or similar to that in the past. You can say " we have never had an electricity failure " in ...... years, but Putin has just turned off the gas. We have enough firewood stacked inside for four years , so are not too worried about transport of pellets , so if it was I looking into the future, I would not invest in a pellet burner , but once again everyone has to live with decisions that they make ( think Brexit)
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Post by Seaboots on Sept 1, 2022 11:32:35 GMT 1
I had an anthracite hopper fed system in my house in Norfolk in the early 80s. It was hell to light, keep alight and control the temperature. I looked into pellet systems three years ago and realized these were potentially as bad. Im so glad I opted for the pompe à chaleur.
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Post by omegal on Sept 1, 2022 13:53:53 GMT 1
Jackie, like you I admire all the non pellet owners for telling us how bad our pellet burners are, as a friend of a friend, errmm of another friend says they are not any good because..............................fill in what you like between the dots BUT ONLY if you are the owner of a pellet burner. We had log burners since 1988 until 2007 and also oil central heating in a very large house we once owned back in the Dodrdogne, We also cut our own wood, we were lucky but at the age I am now I couldn't possibly manage to cut down trees and them cut them in to a size, then bring them indoors to fit in a woodburner. So when we moved to where we are now with electric heaters run on timers, all went well, no wood to cut and to bring in, nothing to clean and hoover, glorious but that was June. Now move on to deep winter of the same year and the system was definitely not up to the warmth we wished to have. Enter our new neighbour who had built a wooden house on the small field next to us. He asked us if would like to see inside (we had given them both electric and water to enable them to build their home) we saw their new pellet burner bought from Leroy Merlin and fitted by one of their recommended fitters and oh boy what what great heat was coming out from it. I asked the question what has been posed on here "what about a power cut" he replied "very rare and we have nice warm jumpers and coats" nice simple answers and his wife said we can also bring the duvet down. Please if you haven't owned one, then I'm not really interested in what the friend of a friend etc has told you, nor what the so called experts say. I go by my own experiences and if we didn't, we wouldn't drive a car, own a dog or cat, or a budgie, have an electric oven with a gas hob, build my own extensions for many years on a few of our houses. I could go on, I doubt on here anyone has something that all agree with but you can be sure that a friend of a friend of theirs will have told them about it and will use that as their proof. Come on get a grip, get out more, it's a big World and none of us are getting out alive...
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Post by annabellespapa on Sept 1, 2022 14:22:14 GMT 1
I have always wondered if you are running hot water and heating system off a pellet stove and there is a power cut what happens to the built up heat in the system, I only ask as we used to have a large 20kw log burner that ran the hot water and radiators with an electric pump. I had stocked up the log burner as where going to be out all day, I mentioned that to a neighbour as we were leaving, 4 hours later the neighbour called me to ask if I knew the power had been off for 3 hours, luckily he had a spare key and ran all the hot water into the bath, the water was so hot he said it was fizzing and the pipework system was creaking, he then put the fire out, I dread to think what we would of come back to 5 hours later. I obviously removed the system. We use electric radiant heaters, that are totally programmable and can be controlled from an app on my phone if necessary, we run it in tandem with two 18kw log burners, at either end of the house with two non electric fans on each of them. At the moment we think we have all bases covered.
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Post by Aardvark on Sept 1, 2022 16:30:18 GMT 1
Don't worry mate. Those who have them never have any problems with that sort of thing, or in a battle of willie waving, won't admit to it.
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Post by jackie on Sept 1, 2022 17:27:04 GMT 1
Don't worry mate. Those who have them never have any problems with that sort of thing, or in a battle of willie waving, won't admit to it. No willy to wave here…😆 Just speaking as I find - we’re delighted with ours. 3 of our neighbours have had them too for a good while. Totally satisfied. If others are happy with their systems then that is totally fine with me.
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Post by cernunnos on Sept 1, 2022 20:17:42 GMT 1
I have always wondered if you are running hot water and heating system off a pellet stove and there is a power cut what happens to the built up heat in the system, I only ask as we used to have a large 20kw log burner that ran the hot water and radiators with an electric pump. I had stocked up the log burner as where going to be out all day, I mentioned that to a neighbour as we were leaving, 4 hours later the neighbour called me to ask if I knew the power had been off for 3 hours, luckily he had a spare key and ran all the hot water into the bath, t he water was so hot he said it was fizzing and the pipework system was creaking, he then put the fire out, I dread to think what we would of come back to 5 hours later. I obviously removed the system. We use electric radiant heaters, that are totally programmable and can be controlled from an app on my phone if necessary, we run it in tandem with two 18kw log burners, at either end of the house with two non electric fans on each of them. At the moment we think we have all bases covered. Obviously not installed correctly . Should be either an open system or closed with a safety valve on the hot water and radiator circuits
Our original heating installed 25 years ago , had an open expansion tank . the new one from last year has 3 different safety valves for pressure and heat.
It seems the laws have changed.
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Post by cernunnos on Sept 1, 2022 20:19:50 GMT 1
Jackie, like you I admire all the non pellet owners for telling us how bad our pellet burners are, as a friend of a friend, errmm of another friend says they are not any good because..............................fill in what you like between the dots BUT ONLY if you are the owner of a pellet burner. We had log burners since 1988 until 2007 and also oil central heating in a very large house we once owned back in the Dodrdogne, We also cut our own wood, we were lucky but at the age I am now I couldn't possibly manage to cut down trees and them cut them in to a size, then bring them indoors to fit in a woodburner. So when we moved to where we are now with electric heaters run on timers, all went well, no wood to cut and to bring in, nothing to clean and hoover, glorious but that was June. Now move on to deep winter of the same year and the system was definitely not up to the warmth we wished to have. Enter our new neighbour who had built a wooden house on the small field next to us. He asked us if would like to see inside (we had given them both electric and water to enable them to build their home) we saw their new pellet burner bought from Leroy Merlin and fitted by one of their recommended fitters and oh boy what what great heat was coming out from it. I asked the question what has been posed on here "what about a power cut" he replied "very rare and we have nice warm jumpers and coats" nice simple answers and his wife said we can also bring the duvet down. Please if you haven't owned one, then I'm not really interested in what the friend of a friend etc has told you, nor what the so called experts say. I go by my own experiences and if we didn't, we wouldn't drive a car, own a dog or cat, or a budgie, have an electric oven with a gas hob, build my own extensions for many years on a few of our houses. I could go on, I doubt on here anyone has something that all agree with but you can be sure that a friend of a friend of theirs will have told them about it and will use that as their proof. Come on get a grip, get out more, it's a big World and none of us are getting out alive... Didn't realise that pellet burning was a cult , and only those that are members may talk about them !
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Post by omegal on Sept 1, 2022 21:27:16 GMT 1
The cult seems to be more the people that have their own wood and plenty of it telling us mere pellet burners just how cheap they are and all is just hunky dory with them, never had a chimney fire Well done you keep the chimney cleaned. Well here you are, we have had oil central heating, electric central heating, 3 houses with wood burners and now we are using a pellet burner. That would tell anyone with a small willy, or with a brain the size of a walnut that by us choosing a pellet burner was through checking out others with that system. No need for us to check out other systems as we had them all before. A gas system is the only we never had for a house but we had it for our camping showers. So I'll raise you 3 wood burners, oil central heating, electric heating system and a pellet burner against your system...?
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Post by Nifty on Sept 1, 2022 21:43:37 GMT 1
It does not matter how big one’s wood may be. There is always the problem of getting it into a hearth or fireplace to overcome.
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Post by omegal on Sept 1, 2022 21:50:34 GMT 1
Don't worry mate. Those who have them never have any problems with that sort of thing, or in a battle of willie waving, won't admit to it. What a strange thing to say, if we had a problem I would say so, why not? As a young man I found I could pee highest up the wall in friendly matches, I then retired whilst a winner. Willie waving would have been a doddle, it's the wall game that is the one to beat.....
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Post by pcpa on Sept 1, 2022 22:26:05 GMT 1
It's OK by me if you want to set off fireworks in a petrol station, not sure if that tips the balance.
I'd like to watch if it wont cramp your style!
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Post by annabellespapa on Sept 2, 2022 7:44:03 GMT 1
I have always wondered if you are running hot water and heating system off a pellet stove and there is a power cut what happens to the built up heat in the system, I only ask as we used to have a large 20kw log burner that ran the hot water and radiators with an electric pump. I had stocked up the log burner as where going to be out all day, I mentioned that to a neighbour as we were leaving, 4 hours later the neighbour called me to ask if I knew the power had been off for 3 hours, luckily he had a spare key and ran all the hot water into the bath, t he water was so hot he said it was fizzing and the pipework system was creaking, he then put the fire out, I dread to think what we would of come back to 5 hours later. I obviously removed the system. We use electric radiant heaters, that are totally programmable and can be controlled from an app on my phone if necessary, we run it in tandem with two 18kw log burners, at either end of the house with two non electric fans on each of them. At the moment we think we have all bases covered. Obviously not installed correctly . Should be either an open system or closed with a safety valve on the hot water and radiator circuits
Our original heating installed 25 years ago , had an open expansion tank . the new one from last year has 3 different safety valves for pressure and heat.
It seems the laws have changed.
You are more than likely correct, this was about 25 years ago, local plumber/heating installer did all the non log burner part so may of not thought through the consequences of no electricity and a roaring log burner.
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Post by cernunnos on Sept 2, 2022 8:09:31 GMT 1
The cult seems to be more the people that have their own wood and plenty of it telling us mere pellet burners just how cheap they are and all is just hunky dory with them, never had a chimney fire Well done you keep the chimney cleaned. Well here you are, we have had oil central heating, electric central heating, 3 houses with wood burners and now we are using a pellet burner. That would tell anyone with a small willy, or with a brain the size of a walnut that by us choosing a pellet burner was through checking out others with that system. No need for us to check out other systems as we had them all before. A gas system is the only we never had for a house but we had it for our camping showers. So I'll raise you 3 wood burners, oil central heating, electric heating system and a pellet burner against your system...? Thanks for the confirmation , sorry about upsetting you . (Dordogne)
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Post by cernunnos on Sept 2, 2022 8:18:31 GMT 1
Obviously not installed correctly . Should be either an open system or closed with a safety valve on the hot water and radiator circuits
Our original heating installed 25 years ago , had an open expansion tank . the new one from last year has 3 different safety valves for pressure and heat.
It seems the laws have changed.
You are more than likely correct, this was about 25 years ago, local plumber/heating installer did all the non log burner part so may of not thought through the consequences of no electricity and a roaring log burner. We still have an open expansion tank , I am planning on changing it to a pressurised one because the system pressure is less than one bar , but won't do it until the rain arrives ( if it does)
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