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Post by ibis on Aug 6, 2021 15:16:43 GMT 1
Israël persiste avec les 3es doses...
Le gouvernement israélien continue d'administrer des troisièmes doses de vaccin anti-Covid aux personnes âgées de 60 ans et plus, en dépit de l'appel de l'Organisation mondiale de la santé (OMS) en faveur d'un moratoire sur cette pratique. ... la France aussi pour les plus fragiles
Le président français Emmanuel Macron a confirmé que son gouvernement se préparait à organiser une campagne de rappel vaccinal contre le Covid "à la rentrée" pour "les plus fragiles et les plus âgés".
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Post by FFS on Aug 6, 2021 17:00:43 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 18:14:07 GMT 1
Captain -
It is obviously not definitive. Waiting until the unequivocal official edict is obviously the way forward.
However don't dis this thread - it is giving a heads up to the issue.
I, certainly, have benefited from clarification around the issues.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 18:18:31 GMT 1
FFS/ibis - Israel giving a third vaccine to all is rather absurd given the carnage in all the other areas in that region.
They obviously do not care about others there.
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Post by manonthemoon2 on Aug 6, 2021 18:31:55 GMT 1
Before eveybody rushes in can those who have booked confirm or otherwise, that "Currently, the only people eligible for a third Covid-19 vaccination dose in France are those who are severely immunocompromised." Somp clarity here would help. Has anyone yet had their 3rd dose and if so had they (or not) underlying conditions? When we booked online we were not asked that question so we have assumed that it is open to all. Same for me so booked anyway although I am a type 1 diabetic
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Post by Veem on Aug 6, 2021 19:22:16 GMT 1
I read the criteria carefully and found nothing which made me ineligible, so I'm booked for my 3rd jab on 21st August.
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Post by ibis on Aug 6, 2021 19:44:58 GMT 1
FFS/ibis - Israel giving a third vaccine to all is rather absurd given the carnage in all the other areas in that region. They obviously do not care about others there. 60 and over is everyone in that State??? Please read before you post. (edit) if english or french is not your first language there are many online or downloadable translators to use.(/edit)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 20:06:11 GMT 1
Ok I should have said over 60s rather than all. Done in a week! It is not just the "vulnerable" though.
Rest still unfortunately applies.
edit - why on an english forum bout france do you suggest that I do not speak eith - bizarre.
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Post by catrose on Aug 6, 2021 20:09:15 GMT 1
I had a spike protéine blood test this morning (I am immune compromised so the drugs may have prevented me responding the vaccine). The result was positive, so I am not going to rush for a booster as it is only 7 months since my first jab.
One’s antibodies will probably decline over time, so since I’m ok at the moment I prefer to wait for a while longer. Having it too soon when no need as sufficiently protected seems a bit pointless to me. Surely better to wait until you are more likely to need it? (Not that anyone can of course say what level is safe yet!)
We will probably only be able to get one booster in every x period...so using it up too soon may not be the best idea?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 20:27:08 GMT 1
Yep, and selfish otherwise.
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Post by gigi on Aug 6, 2021 21:02:30 GMT 1
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Post by manonthemoon2 on Aug 6, 2021 21:51:15 GMT 1
We have decided to wait a while. RDV's were available for the 3rd jab from end of this month onwards but we wonder if it would be best to have the "top up" in October or November. Our top ups are beginning of December
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Post by exile on Aug 7, 2021 0:28:06 GMT 1
Can you expand Ibis - I haven't a clue. As of today all the vaccines that are in use in North America and Europe have not been approved thru a normal, almost 10 year process by any of the health organizations - FDA or the European equivalent but only as an emergency measure.
If booster shots are needed for all than it should never receive full approval like for polio, mumps, etc. The FDA seems to be saying that Pfizer will be approved in January. Ibis can I politely suggest that you stop regurgitating Face crook or similar half truths. You did it wit garden plastics now it seems you are an expert in immunology. 1. Yes the current approvals are under emergency approval status but the 10 year thing is a red herring. There is no set time to obtain full approval. In the past it has often taken 10 years but the C19 vaccines are a bit different because the big firms were already working on vaccines against SARS and MERS in case these should resurrect. They were already over 4 years down the track before C19 appeared. Because of the similarity in the viruses and the vaccine technologies some fairly simple tweaks could be applied to the technology already developed. When C19 became prevalent the work on these vaccines was accelerated. Teams started working 24/7 instead of 37 hours per week - if you insist on the "10 year ""rule""" that reduced the remaining development time from under 6 years to under 1.5 years. Then the vaccine companies took something of a risk (for themselves, not for the public) by firstly overlapping phase 2 and phase 3 trials and importantly starting mass production before any of the trials had been completed. A few companies got burned by this strategy - Sanofi and the Pasteur institute for example - but BioNTech, AstraZenica etc. had successful results from the trials and had vaccine stocks to start injecting in earnest in December 2020. Full approvals - as with any new vaccine - will depend on high levels of vaccination and studies of longer term impacts. So far those impacts all appear to be positive. Reduced levels of infection in vaccinated people, reduced levels of symptoms in vaccinated people and importantly fewer deaths in vaccinated people. 2. If revaccination is needed, it in no way invalidates the approvals: It just means that the vaccine long term effectiveness is not 100%. If your assertion were correct we would not have annual flu vaccines, we would not require 10 year boosters for Yellow Fever, Tetanus and others. And if I remember correctly when I had the early polio vaccine I also had to have a booster. Probably not the case now, but boosters is a well regarded technique in vaccination.
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Post by ajm on Aug 19, 2021 9:59:26 GMT 1
Has anyone had their 3rd jab yet ?- mine is next Wednesday
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Post by FFS on Aug 19, 2021 10:20:31 GMT 1
I'm still waiting for my first but OHs had both of his so that's good. Still waiting?! Have you booked one?
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