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Post by cernunnos on Dec 15, 2023 9:17:26 GMT 1
six deaths in 2022 caused by hunting compared with just under 10 a day on the road,which one is continuing unabated? Yes but it is the terror they reign down on people, our friends live opposite a wooded gully where all forms of wildlife live as there are pools and streams that run through it and the chasse surround it and basically it is shooting fish in a barrel no skill or hunting involved, our friends cannot walk their dog off their property when there is any sign of them present, no members of the public to my knowledge has been hurt but our friends house is peppered with gun shots, by the afternoons after a boozy lunch they are singing in the woods, scaring off the wildlife and letting off random shots. It is all old boys and the occasional middle aged son that has been dragged along, sad all round really. " people" let themselves be terrorised ?
If the hunters are doing anything outside the hunting laws , then report them and they will have their permits revoked . Drinking and hunting is against the law.
My property is Non Chasse because I am a so called " ecolo" and proud of it .
No good complaining on an expat site ?
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Post by jeliecrack on Dec 15, 2023 9:40:36 GMT 1
Its very clear to me that no debate is possible with anti hunt people and vice versa.Is it an unfair comparison ? or is it putting the deaths into perspective.
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Post by houpla on Dec 15, 2023 10:06:45 GMT 1
six deaths in 2022 caused by hunting compared with just under 10 a day on the road,which one is continuing unabated? Yes but it is the terror they reign down on people, our friends live opposite a wooded gully where all forms of wildlife live as there are pools and streams that run through it and the chasse surround it and basically it is shooting fish in a barrel no skill or hunting involved, our friends cannot walk their dog off their property when there is any sign of them present, no members of the public to my knowledge has been hurt but our friends house is peppered with gun shots, by the afternoons after a boozy lunch they are singing in the woods, scaring off the wildlife and letting off random shots. It is all old boys and the occasional middle aged son that has been dragged along, sad all round really. That sounds very much more a result of a lax president (of la chasse). I'm sure they do exist, but it couldn't be more different round here. What puzzles me is why anti-hunters, instead of getting all indignant on social media, don't simply get together and write to their local president and the Federation de la Chasse. There are strict rules which should be followed, and since the Government has been threatening to curtail their activities, I would think that the Federation are keen to make sure that they're applied.
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Post by jackie on Dec 15, 2023 10:11:02 GMT 1
Yes I dislike the hunting here but then I think of the UK and the blood-thirsty, arrogant, class driven fox hunting brigade who take no notice of laws or the grouse shooting brigade which involves ‘keeping’ the bird of prey population in check i.e indiscriminate slaughter and conclude its probably no worse over here…..
However I have no first hand experience of it apart from having gone clay pigeon shooting once which I was surprisingly good at…..😳
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Post by houpla on Dec 15, 2023 10:20:19 GMT 1
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Post by jardiniere on Dec 15, 2023 10:21:22 GMT 1
If the hunters are doing anything outside the hunting laws , then report them and they will have their permits revoked . Drinking and hunting is against the law. Oh yeah? Wake up!
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Post by Nifty on Dec 15, 2023 10:22:47 GMT 1
six deaths in 2022 caused by hunting compared with just under 10 a day on the road,which one is continuing unabated? Silly comparison, how many millions of vehicle journeys are taken everyday? If you kill someone by driving dangerously you'll end up in prison, shoot an innocent bystander whilst hunting you won't. When we moved from Ariege to Les Land abt 2007 we stayed at temporary accommodation at Miramont. Shortly after we had moved on there was a bystander killed barely a hundred yards from the house we were staying at by a round fired from a hunter’s rifle. If you compare the ratio deaths caused by hunting taking into account the fact that the number of vehicles on the road is a tad larger than the number of hunters then I think that might put a different perspective on the matter. I think that most ownrpers of large areas of land are pro hunt. especially if they grow maize, boar eat a considerable portion of their crop. No good pointing this out on an expat site ? Somebody has to maintain the confusion !
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Post by jardiniere on Dec 15, 2023 10:23:43 GMT 1
In response to the OP, Service Client never saying sorry.
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 15, 2023 10:58:10 GMT 1
If the hunters are doing anything outside the hunting laws , then report them and they will have their permits revoked . Drinking and hunting is against the law. Oh yeah? Wake up! Please excuse my ignorance , I have been awake for quite a while . Perhaps you could add some of your advice and experiece to the anti-hunt discussion ? Without the hunt , the French countryside would be over-run by wild boar, that is a fact . Hunters that break hunting laws , loose their licences , that is a fact too.
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 15, 2023 11:48:28 GMT 1
The difference is that most car journeys are necessary, while most hunting is not.
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Post by glazedallover on Dec 15, 2023 12:37:38 GMT 1
The difference is that most car journeys are necessary, while most hunting is not. You're 'aving a giraffe......
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Post by mysty on Dec 15, 2023 12:41:27 GMT 1
The difference is that most car journeys are necessary, while most hunting is not. You say that but according to cernunnos if there was no hunters we would be over run with boars and probably bunnies as well.
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Post by Nifty on Dec 15, 2023 14:04:38 GMT 1
The hunters say that if it was not for them there would be no sanglier.
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 15, 2023 15:49:21 GMT 1
Maybe if they could learn the difference between domestic cats, dogs, and people they might have an impact on the sanglier. Until then, the hunting season is "hiding indoors season" in some areas.
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Post by houpla on Dec 15, 2023 16:17:57 GMT 1
The difference is that most car journeys are necessary, while most hunting is not. Um...as pointed out above, that depends if you're a landowner trying to use your land to provide an income. The damage caused by deer and boar can be colossal and the Chasse (the official association) is responsible for keeping numbers within bounds. I don't think that the average non-hunter, whether French or British is very well-informed about hunting. It's another example of media manipulation. If the French press and media are largely anti-hunt, they're hardly going to present a balanced view, are they? It's excellent timing...... this appeared in our postbox this morning Translation: The prés is notifying us that there will be an organised hunt on Sunday morning, where and when, that hunters will be posted nearby but every measure will be taken to avoid any risk or inconvenience to residents. The members of the Chasse are entirely at our disposition should we require any further information.
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