Veem
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Post by Veem on Dec 16, 2023 10:34:25 GMT 1
The difference is that most car journeys are necessary, while most hunting is not. Um...as pointed out above, that depends if you're a landowner trying to use your land to provide an income. The damage caused by deer and boar can be colossal and the Chasse (the official association) is responsible for keeping numbers within bounds. I don't think that the average non-hunter, whether French or British is very well-informed about hunting. It's another example of media manipulation. If the French press and media are largely anti-hunt, they're hardly going to present a balanced view, are they? It's excellent timing...... this appeared in our postbox this morning Translation: The prés is notifying us that there will be an organised hunt on Sunday morning, where and when, that hunters will be posted nearby but every measure will be taken to avoid any risk or inconvenience to residents. The members of the Chasse are entirely at our disposition should we require any further information. View Attachment08.00 start? Dawn isn't till 08.32 at the moment which means it's still dark at 08.00. As far as I'm aware it's illegal to hunt in the dark, except under very special circumstances with exceptional permission and a very particular person in attendance.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 16, 2023 11:07:08 GMT 1
A complaint by a "foreigner" prompting any serious action is as likely as Liz Truss becoming Prime Minister again.
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Post by Polarengineer on Dec 16, 2023 11:35:42 GMT 1
If there was a major dislike of any country, I doubt one would live there
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Post by annabellespapa on Dec 16, 2023 12:29:57 GMT 1
Laying bait stations where there is contraception in the feed is the answer, if it is such a problem, however I think it is a chance to get out from under their wives feet and show some masculinity for a few hours and drink while doing. Don't mind the going out but using it as an excuse for going out and drinking away from their family is the issue especially with guns. Not my issue problem but call it as it is, if the wildlife needs to be controlled there are better methods than hunting, where animals can be injured and die a horrible death and the general public have to be on guard. What sort of "contraception" would you propose for a 100 kilo plus wild boar ? Look up the history of La Chasse in France and then read up on what Chasseurs need to learn to get their permis. If you see any hunter that is drunk then report him to your local President of the chasse , because it is his responsibility and it is him that will be fined if one of his hunters does not keep to the law.
I'll go with Niftys suggestion of Bromide
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Post by norfolk on Dec 16, 2023 12:53:05 GMT 1
I was always told that anything ‘huntable’ belonged to La Chasse.
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 16, 2023 13:05:51 GMT 1
Um...as pointed out above, that depends if you're a landowner trying to use your land to provide an income. The damage caused by deer and boar can be colossal and the Chasse (the official association) is responsible for keeping numbers within bounds. I don't think that the average non-hunter, whether French or British is very well-informed about hunting. It's another example of media manipulation. If the French press and media are largely anti-hunt, they're hardly going to present a balanced view, are they? It's excellent timing...... this appeared in our postbox this morning Translation: The prés is notifying us that there will be an organised hunt on Sunday morning, where and when, that hunters will be posted nearby but every measure will be taken to avoid any risk or inconvenience to residents. The members of the Chasse are entirely at our disposition should we require any further information. View Attachment08.00 start? Dawn isn't till 08.32 at the moment which means it's still dark at 08.00. As far as I'm aware it's illegal to hunt in the dark, except under very special circumstances with exceptional permission and a very particular person in attendance. Hunting is allowed an hour before sun up until an hour after sun down ( when I last looked)
La chasse est autorisée de jour, c'est-à-dire 1h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil au chef-lieu du département et 1h00 après son coucher. Le gibier d'eau peut également être chassé à la passée à partir de 2h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil et jusqu'à 2h00 après son coucher.
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 16, 2023 13:10:08 GMT 1
What sort of "contraception" would you propose for a 100 kilo plus wild boar ? Look up the history of La Chasse in France and then read up on what Chasseurs need to learn to get their permis. If you see any hunter that is drunk then report him to your local President of the chasse , because it is his responsibility and it is him that will be fined if one of his hunters does not keep to the law.
I'll go with Niftys suggestion of Bromide Out of my experience zone , so I bow to your knowledge of the chemical .
It has been said that during World War I, British soldiers were given bromide to curb their sexual urges. Lord Dunsany mentions a soldier being given bromide as a sedative for nervous exhaustion and overwork.
So probably won't work on wild boar?
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Veem
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Post by Veem on Dec 16, 2023 15:31:46 GMT 1
cerunnus said - "La chasse est autorisée de jour, c'est-à-dire 1h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil au chef-lieu du département et 1h00 après son coucher. Le gibier d'eau peut également être chassé à la passée à partir de 2h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil et jusqu'à 2h00 après son coucher."
That's interesting but contrary to what the president of our local hunt told me a couple of years ago. Could you point me to the source of this by way of a link please?
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Post by glazedallover on Dec 16, 2023 15:49:29 GMT 1
The hunting part of this thread should probably be hived off on its own , although there have probably been many more.... I am neither strongly for and certainly not against, as my folks were born on farms in rural Ireland and so despite my Citi upbringing , I understand the need for it. I have hunters from a commune in the Cher in the fields behind and to the left of me, and from my commune in the Allier in front and to the right .
My picardy blue spaniel is a nervous sort and hates gunfire, so I just walk her away from the hunters if and when they are in the vicinity . I have no problems avoiding the hunt in the Tronçais forest on any day of the week, and in fact only avoid it on Sundays because of this mythical 98% who visit the forest on that day without any regard for anyone but themselves, letting their dogs run amok and leaving litter all over the place....;I'd rather have the hunters imho.....
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Post by Nutty on Dec 16, 2023 16:18:22 GMT 1
Back to indicators again.. If you see a French car on a roundabout and his turn signal is flashing, you're looking at a Frenchman who can't understand why his windscreen wipers don't work..
I wish this thread had been a more positive one - such as what is your major like in France. Negativity is a bit draining.
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Post by Nifty on Dec 16, 2023 16:22:39 GMT 1
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 16, 2023 17:14:45 GMT 1
cerunnus said - "La chasse est autorisée de jour, c'est-à-dire 1h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil au chef-lieu du département et 1h00 après son coucher. Le gibier d'eau peut également être chassé à la passée à partir de 2h00 avant l'heure légale de lever du soleil et jusqu'à 2h00 après son coucher." That's interesting but contrary to what the president of our local hunt told me a couple of years ago. Could you point me to the source of this by way of a link please? La chasse est autorisée de jour : La notion de jour étant vague, la loi précise que le jour commence à partir d’une heure avant le lever du soleil et jusqu’à une heure après l’heure du coucher du soleil (heures légales du chef-lieu du département). Toutefois, il reste possible que les arrêtés préfectoraux appliquent des horaires plus restrictifs selon les espèces.
Federation National de Chasseurs web page. FNC
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 16, 2023 17:19:43 GMT 1
Back to indicators again.. If you see a French car on a roundabout and his turn signal is flashing, you're looking at a Frenchman who can't understand why his windscreen wipers don't work.. I wish this thread had been a more positive one - such as what is your major like in France. Negativity is a bit draining. I agree , but I havn't seen any major dislikes from anyone yet!
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Post by curtis on Dec 16, 2023 18:30:28 GMT 1
I really can't find anything important enough to report. Nowhere is perfect. I'm very happy to be here.
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Post by houpla on Dec 16, 2023 18:35:48 GMT 1
Um...as pointed out above, that depends if you're a landowner trying to use your land to provide an income. The damage caused by deer and boar can be colossal and the Chasse (the official association) is responsible for keeping numbers within bounds. I don't think that the average non-hunter, whether French or British is very well-informed about hunting. It's another example of media manipulation. If the French press and media are largely anti-hunt, they're hardly going to present a balanced view, are they? It's excellent timing...... this appeared in our postbox this morning Translation: The prés is notifying us that there will be an organised hunt on Sunday morning, where and when, that hunters will be posted nearby but every measure will be taken to avoid any risk or inconvenience to residents. The members of the Chasse are entirely at our disposition should we require any further information. View Attachment08.00 start? Dawn isn't till 08.32 at the moment which means it's still dark at 08.00. As far as I'm aware it's illegal to hunt in the dark, except under very special circumstances with exceptional permission and a very particular person in attendance. They don't shoot when it's dark, unlike the pillocks in their Wendy houses in the trees, shooting pigeons whenever they feel like it. It takes the Chasse a while to get into position ....every 50m all around a wood. It's a NE-facing slope, too, so they'll get the first rays as the sun comes up. They're usually gone by midi, especially if they have a good morning. I said 'cheerio' to the bambis this afternoon, just in case.. Beautiful animals, they graze on the surrounding fields when they're not eating my roses. Will be picking up the resulting barquettes of civet de chevreuil on the 30th
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