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Post by aucamville on Jan 7, 2024 20:15:27 GMT 1
Given that this forum is for 'France and all things French' I was somewhat surprised to see that nobody has commented on the major contribution that Airbus made in saving lives in the tragic incident in Japan. Thanks to the structural integrity of the A350 involved and the excellent JAL cabin crew nearly 400 people were safely evacuated from the burning aircraft. Tragically 5 crew on the smaller aircraft died. There has been much nonsense in the UK media about the folly of building 'plastic' aircraft but the A350 is a great French success story, a great French employer both here in France and within Europe and also the UK despite Brexit. 2023 was a record year for Airbus in terms of new aircraft orders and deliveries. Best wishes from Toulouse, home of Airbus.
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Jan 7, 2024 21:55:43 GMT 1
Post by houpla on Jan 7, 2024 21:55:43 GMT 1
Given the story about Boeings being grounded for controls after a bit dropped off one in mid-air, even more kudos to Airbus. I'm rather relieved to be boarding one of the latter on Tuesday
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Jan 8, 2024 8:51:13 GMT 1
Post by monsieur3seas on Jan 8, 2024 8:51:13 GMT 1
No doubt Airbus has performed very well compared to Boeing and it was remarkable that everyone on the plane in Japan got out safely. I wonder if it would have been so successfull had most of the passengers been from Europe who are not so 'regimented'. I also query why/how the plane caught fire so quickly - a bit scary!
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Jan 8, 2024 9:01:19 GMT 1
Post by Nifty on Jan 8, 2024 9:01:19 GMT 1
Boeings are made with the mindset of Ford.
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Jan 8, 2024 9:19:36 GMT 1
Post by spectrum on Jan 8, 2024 9:19:36 GMT 1
According to what I have read it was successful because of the mindset of the Japanese people they did has they were told (First time), didn't argue, left bags behind, and didn't push, considering that only three ( I think) of the slides worked they were all very lucky, now I have never flown, but seen enough news footage to see how Brits behave on planes, Iam sure other nationalities may be the same, just when they have run out of lager.
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Jan 8, 2024 11:35:09 GMT 1
Post by exile on Jan 8, 2024 11:35:09 GMT 1
That is a very unfair assessment spectrum. There is no doubt that there is a few (holiday) flights where what you describe happens but to suggest this is typical of all flights is completely wrong. As evidence I would point you to the videos of passengers on the Alaskan plane, who despite a sodding great hole in the side of the plane remained very calm. This it seems has surprised many news commentators who commented on the calmness of the passengers. It did not surprise me having experience cabin depressurisation on a flight over the Alps. Every passenger except one remained calm and the "transgressor" was as far as I could see a pre- or young teen who was sitting separate from the rest of the family and wanted to go to the parents. Expert handling by the (trained) cabin crew soon settled them down. When we landed back where we had started there was no panic to get off - albeit that exit was via the steps and not emergency slides.
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Jan 8, 2024 14:08:09 GMT 1
Post by spectrum on Jan 8, 2024 14:08:09 GMT 1
As said I have never flown, so anything opinions I have are based on what media is telling me, it was not a generalization of air passengers par se. As for the Alaskan problem if a person had have been sat in that seat, he or she would have panicked, if you want a bit of light reading pick up the three volumes of "Air Disaster" by Job Macarthur very interesting reading on the development of aircraft safety, best not to read in-flight
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Jan 8, 2024 14:52:56 GMT 1
Post by exile on Jan 8, 2024 14:52:56 GMT 1
But there you fall foul of media bias - news and the books.
I have yet to see the news report that Easyjet (other airlines are available) had 520 flights today without incident. One drunk causing a scene caught on someone mobile however makes the 6 o' clock news - especially if the flight ends up being diverted and it's a slow news day.
Next time you see one of these news items, ask yourself when you last heard of a similar disturbance, then multiply the number of days by the number of flights and see how likely it is that such events happen.
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Jan 8, 2024 20:33:09 GMT 1
Post by aucamville on Jan 8, 2024 20:33:09 GMT 1
This thread seems to have drifted away a little from my original post on the fine achievements by Airbus in 2023. But for anyone else that is interested in French news, Elizabeth Borne resigned (or was pushed) today.
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Jan 8, 2024 21:45:22 GMT 1
Post by houpla on Jan 8, 2024 21:45:22 GMT 1
Who do you think will replace her, aucamville?
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Jan 9, 2024 0:11:33 GMT 1
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Jan 9, 2024 0:15:50 GMT 1
Post by Nutty on Jan 9, 2024 0:15:50 GMT 1
Boeings are made with the mindset of Ford. Meaning? I have around 4000 hrs in a Boeing product and I have no issues at all with their build quality - if that what you're hinting at.
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Jan 9, 2024 8:00:43 GMT 1
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Jan 9, 2024 8:12:22 GMT 1
Post by spectrum on Jan 9, 2024 8:12:22 GMT 1
But there you fall foul of media bias - news and the books. Well we all know about the media, but you cannot make a comment about the books, he was one of the worlds leading air accident investigators, so no fiction.
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Jan 9, 2024 9:35:11 GMT 1
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