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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 13:31:37 GMT 1
I would have thought (hoped) that anyone trying to enter the country illegally whether by boat or not would be treated as an illegal immigrant no matter what their nationality or colour. If they plan to seek asylum once they reach UK shores then there is nothing illegal in what they are doing. Priti Patel is planning to introduce laws which which would, effectively, make it a criminal offence for the RNLI to rescue these particular HUMAN BEINGS who get into trouble at sea. Currently it is only an offence if you help them for gain. www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2021/07/priti-patel-making-it-illegal-uk-rescue-asylum-seekers
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Post by triumphant on Aug 3, 2021 13:54:21 GMT 1
The question that needs to be asked is if they are asylum seekers then why not seek it in France or wherever they reach a safe haven and then apply to enter the UK through the proper channels?
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Post by exile on Aug 3, 2021 14:07:49 GMT 1
Because omce they have applied for asylum in France there are no grounds to allow them into any other country.
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Post by triumphant on Aug 3, 2021 14:09:27 GMT 1
Because omce they have applied for asylum in France there are no grounds to allow them into any other country. Then maybe they are not as desperate to find a safe haven as has been made out.
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Post by nobody on Aug 3, 2021 14:40:57 GMT 1
Because omce they have applied for asylum in France there are no grounds to allow them into any other country. Then maybe they are not as desperate to find a safe haven as has been made out. Is France a safe haven ?
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 3, 2021 15:25:37 GMT 1
As safe as UK?
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Post by FFS on Aug 3, 2021 16:31:37 GMT 1
Because omce they have applied for asylum in France there are no grounds to allow them into any other country. Then maybe they are not as desperate to find a safe haven as has been made out. Those who try to get to the UK tend to speak English as a second language, not French; France for them is a country of transition and not 'safe' in the sense that they don't speak or understand the language.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 16:38:50 GMT 1
Is this thread of any benefit other than for the expression of nationalist or socialist or other ist views.
The UK is an institutionaly racist county in which people will swear blind that individually they are not! Historically they have been very "naughty" a la Python.
An Estonian acquaintance (friend seems overused) who had spent many year in the UK (and not a fruit picker) once made the comment that the problem with the UK was that there has not been a revolution for many many years.
The political system and subsequetly the press are thus totally outdated and, dare I say it, corrupt.
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Post by FFS on Aug 3, 2021 16:39:41 GMT 1
Another aspect to consider is whether those protesting about and abusing cross-channel immigrants (for want of a better term) are actually racist, in the true sense of the term, or more likely chauvinistic or jingoistic, which is easier to understand, if not to agree with.
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Post by nobody on Aug 3, 2021 16:40:10 GMT 1
More safe if you want a roof over your head and not end up in the drugs trade in Paris.
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 3, 2021 16:57:21 GMT 1
Is this thread of any benefit other than for the expression of nationalist or socialist or other ist views. The UK is an institutionaly racist county in which people will swear blind that individually they are not! Historically they have been very "naughty" a la Python. An Estonian acquaintance (friend seems overused) who had spent many year in the UK (and not a fruit picker) once made the comment that the problem with the UK was that there has not been a revolution for many many years. The political system and subsequetly the press are thus totally outdated and, dare I say it, corrupt. Real evidence for this, please, not reports by such as Runnymede Distrust.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 17:06:17 GMT 1
Really dont want an argument woolybanana but can you produce anything backing up your point of view.
Just looking at Johnson the journalist will see how the UK is becoming.
In terms of corrupt, just see non-governmental press. I personally will not be able to change your mind.
NB Hungary definitely and other East European countries perhaps have gone too far right (extremist) after their revolutions though..
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 3, 2021 17:12:21 GMT 1
No, granpyish, nor do I; I suspect that we all believe what our political educational and cultural predilections want us to believe. No point in trying to change at our ages.
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Post by FFS on Aug 3, 2021 17:21:34 GMT 1
Is this thread of any benefit other than for the expression of nationalist or socialist or other ist views. The UK is an institutionaly racist county in which people will swear blind that individually they are not! Historically they have been very "naughty" a la Python. An Estonian acquaintance (friend seems overused) who had spent many year in the UK (and not a fruit picker) once made the comment that the problem with the UK was that there has not been a revolution for many many years. The political system and subsequetly the press are thus totally outdated and, dare I say it, corrupt. Real evidence for this, please, not reports by such as Runnymede Distrust. Sometimes there are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Post by nobody on Aug 3, 2021 17:49:14 GMT 1
Anyway, the UK is a far more welcoming country for migrants/immigrants than France and probably most EU countries.
Right or wrong ....the UK certainly does it's bit above most. Which I guess is the problem for some.
So all this UK bashing is a complete nonsense.
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