mysty
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Post by mysty on Jan 29, 2024 21:15:31 GMT 1
Omegal if it was so easy buying and selling house why is everyone not doing it? We used to sell to Brits now it's mostly French and Dutch. You have to change with the times. Plenty of farmers make money others don't it's a fact of life. I'm taking a rest from posting for a while. Have a good evening.
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Post by houpla on Jan 29, 2024 21:31:54 GMT 1
Omegal, they wrecked Paris on a weekly basis, people got injured shops and businesses got looted. It was well covered in the news. Plenty of farmers are making money many aren't so either diversify or find something else to do. You cannot rely on hand outs to keep a business going indefinitely. For your information, for what it's worth , the destruction in Paris had nothing to do with the true Gilets Jaunes and everything to do with the disaffected rent-a-mob youth of the banlieues (that means suburbs) who wreaked havoc under the cover of the true protests. Some farmers here do make money, as I pointed out before, the ones who are extremely astute business-minded people and who have the means and personnel to be able to diversify. Farming in France isn't a job. It's a way of life. It's to do with a deeply-ingrained love of the land. You've really no idea.....or maybe you have and you're just shit-stirring. Bored?
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Post by specsavers2 on Jan 29, 2024 21:32:19 GMT 1
Don’t stay away to long’your contribution will be missed. Enjoy your break.😉 remain calm gents we are all entitled to our opinions .
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Post by houpla on Jan 29, 2024 21:35:56 GMT 1
That is definitely a matter of opinion
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Post by woolybanana on Jan 29, 2024 21:53:18 GMT 1
Omegal, they wrecked Paris on a weekly basis, people got injured shops and businesses got looted. It was well covered in the news. Plenty of farmers are making money many aren't so either diversify or find something else to do. You cannot rely on hand outs to keep a business going indefinitely. For your information, for what it's worth , the destruction in Paris had nothing to do with the true Gilets Jaunes and everything to do with the disaffected rent-a-mob youth of the banlieues (that means suburbs) who wreaked havoc under the cover of the true protests. Some farmers here do make money, as I pointed out before, the ones who are extremely astute business-minded people and who have the means and personnel to be able to diversify. Farming in France isn't a job. It's a way of life. It's to do with a deeply-ingrained love of the land. You've really no idea.....or maybe you have and you're just shit-stirring. Bored? Houpla, your view is grossly simplistic; whilst there may be farmers who love the land, many are prisoners of having nowhere to go having been conned into farming by their parents or families and by educational systems which encourage them to stay put, not get out, from an early age. This breeds bitterness, anger, cruelty, alcoholism and, sadly many suicides. The changes being imposed on farmers by climate change mean that many will not survive, which they know and so are angry. As to the gilets jaune, many were unemployed, unwilling to be employed and bar supporters. The lost of the system if you like sustained by le noir and State handouts of various types. Easy meat for the agitators
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Post by houpla on Jan 29, 2024 22:15:52 GMT 1
Sorry, WB, but I don't agree. There have been at least a couple of generations of youngsters who have 'got out' but in many cases they have ended up 'back in' after doing various other trades, or studies. The call of the land (or the family) is just too strong. It is a job where the odds are stacked against you, though, especially being at the mercy of the météo and Nature in general. EU and governmental directives which seem aimed purely at making life even more difficult are hard to swallow, above all when they're dreamed up by bureaucrats who know nothing of the complexities of the job. Thank you for your assessment of the Gilets Jaunes If I hadn't been in the throes of applying for nationality, I'd have been right up there with them. Just trying to work out which category I come under
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Post by omegal on Jan 30, 2024 0:56:04 GMT 1
Omegal if it was so easy buying and selling house why is everyone not doing it? We used to sell to Brits now it's mostly French and Dutch. You have to change with the times. Plenty of farmers make money others don't it's a fact of life. I'm taking a rest from posting for a while. Have a good evening. It is easy and you know it, I have been here a very long time and have met several Marchand de Bien in that time. Many people come here to retire so have no want to do it, others seeking work do not have the money to buy a house, or to speculate and some with money simply don't want to do it. It's that simple and you know it. A marchand de bien who knows the market decent enough and has money to invest will always make money and you know, look at the number of times you inform us of you buying something and on ocasion say you will sit on it for a while. Now that takes a lot of spare money to do that and many people don't have spare money to buy other houses, many live from hand to mouth nd that is for al nationalities. Sorry but the "I'm alright Jack syndrome" is raising its head on this thread. You call changing with the times is not selling to Brits but selling to French and Dutch, well there's a hardship ! When you say plenty of farmers make money and others don't, I personally have seen this divide for many years when a friend over in Normandy was buying up small dairy farms as he saw that to make money you needed to be big and as big as one can be, for the others though, surely you must see they need help and that help comes back to all us buyers, no farmers, no food, not too hard to understand surely! And a good evening to you mysty
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Post by mysty on Jan 30, 2024 6:32:17 GMT 1
Omegal, we do not rip off vulnerable people desperate to sell there house. 99% of our properties come from the tax office or notaires who have inheritance sales the families have no interest in. The average price we pay is 10.000 euros so almost anytime can buy and sell houses. We never came with a fortune and made it work so no idea where the anger is coming from. So am I a b*stard because I make money that is normally the point in having a business supermarkets stores Bob the builder all make profits. You don't want too read or look at what's being bought and sold, I can live with that. It will save space on here. Enjoy your day.
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Post by jeliecrack on Jan 30, 2024 8:04:10 GMT 1
Nobody is saying don't make money,but don't come "the anyone can do it" mantra because they can't.Many factors like not having children not having family who bankroll you(Gates,Branson Bezos,Musk,to name a few) the twists and turns of life in general,its very easy ,also, to say go get a job when its not you looking for one.The world has changed but not in a good way its dominated by mega corporations decideing what is good and bad for us.
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Post by norfolk on Jan 30, 2024 8:44:03 GMT 1
My two penneth regarding house selling in France ( for what it’s worth).
I was working as an ‘Agent Commercial’ in the late 80s until Black Wednesday kicked me in the goolies. I was paid on a commission basis with the commission being paid as a salary within a ‘Cooperative ‘ which was handy as it allowed me and my family to be covered within the French SS system. I worked within an agency selling to Brits right at the beginning of the expat property boom. We like to think we revolutionized house selling with glossy brochures ( no internet in those days !) and inclusive deals with hotels with airport pick up and returns etc. It worked well with loadsa houses being sold. It was for me, 7/7 and long days so I like to think I earned my money. Other similar agencies popped up some of whom are still knocking about today and still doing a good job generally. The whole business was very much dog eat dog especially as a few less scrupulous characters entered the business. The big secret imo was to have a good rapport with the notaires most of whom were very professional providing you played the game. The game was (and still is probably) to push their properties and remain loyal. A few agents and notaires were dishonest and were prosecuted accordingly if found out. I could write a book…. I worked very hard and tried to remain honest in a dog eat dog business which allowed me to make a living. Others, not willing to put in the long hours didn’t survive.
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Post by crabtree24 on Feb 1, 2024 17:07:12 GMT 1
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